Cut shortening into next four ingredients until mixture resembles fine crumbs. Add water, 1 tbsp at a time, until it forms a stiff dough. Roll until 1/8 inch thick on lightly floured surface. Cut into 2. inch rounds or squares. Place on ungreased cookie sheet and bake at 375 until they just start to brown - 12 to 15 mins. Here is a Scottish Oat Cake recipe that I have to post, since I mentioned it. They are traditional with Scottish Cock-a-Leekie soup (which I posted in the low-fat/heart healthy topic) Food & Wine RT [*] Category 2, Topic 29 Message 210 Wed Dec 02, 1992 J.LEVINSON3 [Jody] at 07:10 EST MM by QBTOMM and Sylvia Steiger, GEnie THE.STEIGERS, CI$ 71511,2253, GT Cookbook echo moderator, net/node 004/005 File ftp://ftp.idiscover.co.uk/pub/food/mealmaster/recipes/mmdja006.zip