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Subject: Never, Ever......... LOL

Okay you bakers.  Just a warning that if you start baking at 5 a.m., without having your coffee, you run the risk of creating some strange concoctions. I needed two breads for this morning, so started early.  Only instead of 1 1/2 teaspoons of yeast, I think I used 1 1/2 tablespoons.  The loaf was like something out of an I Love Lucy episode and was trying to rise right out of the top of the machine.     Now, had I had some coffee, and made sure I was totally awake, I don't think I would have made such an error.  Looks like my building manager and our assistant manager won't be getting fresh baked bread after all.  I don't have enough time to make two more loaves before our manager arrives. Hopefully, by next year, I'll have this bread machine thing down pat and will start earlier. 
Anne


The plot thickens..... or rises in this case.  I did a second loaf, measured very carefully, and it rose as high as the first.  I still won't chance giving that first loaf to anyone, but here's the question for the experienced ones out there....

Does the rapid rise yeast generally rise higher than the dry active?  That's the only difference in the recipes (other than the time it takes to bake to completion). 

Sorry if I have too many questions, but I'm really a novice at this machine stuff (or even oven breadmaking), and it's amazing how much we don't know.

Anne

With Rapid Rise yeast, you can use less yeast or a shorter rise time.  On the Zojirushi, that's the "Quick Bread" (not to be confused with "Cake", which is for non-yeast-raised breads).
 
ReneeM

Thanks Renee,

Actually, I think it all had to do with the foibles of our weather here in Florida (for lack of any other explanation).  In any event, the breads all got rave reviews, so I'm a happy girl.  And I did use the quick bread setting.

Now I'm really excited, because today I tried my first pizza, and it tasted like that hut with the red roof's deep dish pizza.  Not perfect, but quite acceptable and great tasting (even with bottled sauce), and I'll be doing quite a bit of pizzas I think.

Anne

[edited January-9-2008]

I'm glad it turned out great.
I have noticed, here in Pennsylvania, that I need less yeast in the summer.  When I do an overnight rise (overnight whole wheat bread), I need hardly any yeast at all.
I get that big bag of Fleishmann's yeast at BJs, keep it in the fridge/freezer, and use only the little bit I need.

Can you give me some tips and a recipe for a very good home made yeast white bread.I have baked bread lots of times but not for many years untill lately.My bread looked so nice but was dry.I want it to be moist and have a nice crust.Can you help...Thank you

You didn't say what type of machine you're using, so I can only go by mine.  I have a Zo mini, which makes a one pound loaf.

Basic White Bread (I've never done this one)
7/8 cup          water
2 1/3 cups      bread flour
1 1/2 Tbsp     Sugar
1 tsp             Salt
1 Tbsp           Butter
1 tsp             Active Dry Yeast

Please in machine in the order recommended by your manufacturer.  All ingredients should be at room temperature.


Honey Bread (I love this one)

3/4 cup          Water
2 1/3 cups      Bread Flour
2  Tbsp          Honey
1 1/2 Tbsp     Dry Milk
1  tsp            Salt
1  Tbsp          Butter
1  tsp            Active Dry Yeast

I would suggest that in the future, you might want to start a new thread, so we will notice your question promptly and be able to (hopefully) give you an answer.

Anne

"Okay you bakers.  Just a warning that if you start baking at 5 a.m., without having your coffee, you run the risk of creating some strange concoctions."
 
   I'm giggling my backside off over your description. It reminded me of my attempts (about ten years ago, as a bachelor) at making a batch of Oatmeal cookies for myself one Friday night for the purposes of an easy-to-grab and carry "breakfast" on the go (look at the ingredients and you'll see that oatmeal cookies are essentially "breakfast") for the following week.
   Somehow, the first attempt suffered a catastrophic failure. Hmmm. It looked like oatmeal brittle instead of oatmeal cookies.
   Attempt two (the next night) suffered the same failure. Hmmmm.
   Attempts three and four (the following weekend) crashed and burned (not really burned, but seriously flopped) in exactly the same way.
   Ok. So... my now insulted pride was on the ropes and I was determined to make it work the following weekend. I was methodical. I took my time. I followed the recipe to the letter, going so far as to make a point-by-point checklist and ticking off EACH AND EVERY STEP as I executed them. No repetitions. No failures to add required ingredients.
   Flop. Oatmeal brittle again. A carmelized mass of wasted ingredients in the bottom of a cookie pan that was really starting to get annoyed with me (have you ever had a cooking utensil look at you like you're an idiot? `Very demoralizing).
   I've never tried making oatmeal cookies since. I knows when I `been beat.
   I've never had trouble baking ANYTHING else. And now, years later, after consulting a friend who makes MARVELOUS oatmeal cookies, she gave me two very sound pieces of advice.
   1) Don't use that recipe anymore. It is obviously flawed.
   2) DON'T TRY TO MAKE COOKIES WHEN YOU'VE BEEN DRINKING BEER YOU BIG DUMMY!!!!
 
   Lesson learned. Everyone has thier own Kryptonite. Mine is Oatmeal Cookies.
   Strangely enough, my bread just gets better and better and better. I think that's because I make it by hand, with care and love for what I'm doing. Also: I'm getting up really early to do it, so there's no beer involved.   
   
   

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